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SARA and a center squeeze scenario pair

JQ
Jameson Quinn
Sun, Oct 23, 2016 6:43 PM

Let's say that the honest preferences are one of the following two
scenarios, and the voters don't know which:

35 or 35: A>B>C
10 or 20: B>A>C
15 or 05: B>C>A
40 or 40: C>B>A

Under SARA, the most naive/honest heuristic would probably be to rate the
middle preference "abstain", yielding the following:

35 or 35: A>>B>C
10 or 20: B>>A>C
15 or 05: B>>C>A
40 or 40: C>>B>A

Points: A70, B50, C80.
This gives a win to C or A, depending on which scenario is true.

Clearly, if all the B voters truncate, that's sufficient to elect B. But
let's say that the B voters are not actually that highly motivated to
strategize against their second choice, so they don't do that.

In scenario 2, the C voters can ensure that A can't win if 25 of them
switch to C>B>>A. This would give B 75 points, enough to beat A in scenario
2 but not enough to beat C in scenario 1.

But if the A voters anticipate this, then they have no hope of winning,
even in scenario 2; and thus, to avoid loss in scenario 1, all of them will
switch to A>B>>C. In that case, even if none of the C voters actually
strategize, B will still get at least 85; enough to win outright. So the
following ballots will be stable:

p1 or (1-p1)
35 or 35: A>B>>C at p2 or A>>B>C at (1-p2)
10 or 20: B>>A>C
15 or 05: B>>C>A
15 or 15: C>>B>A
25 or 25: C>B>>A at p3 or C>>B>A at (1-p3).

Results: (p1, p2, p3: result)
n,n,n: A
y,n,n: C
n,y,n: B
y,y,n: B
n,n,y: B
y,n,y: C
n,y,y: B
y,y,y: B

So if the payoff for B is 0, the A voters face a choice between a payoff of
Aa(1-p1)(1-p3)-Ac(p1)(p3). Insofar as B is over 50% of the utility of A, so
that Aa (the benefit they get from A winning) is less than Ac (the penalty
for C winning), the C voters must leave p3 less than .5 if they are to
tempt the A voters to not to give B points. Yet the payoff for the C voters
is strictly better the higher p3 is; leaving p low enough to tempt the A
voters not to give B points is dominated. Thus, (p2=p3=1 and so B wins with
certainty) is the subgame-perfect equilibrium.

If you're looking for a "trembling hand" equilibrium, B will only lose
insofar as the hands are very trembly and/or B is the score loser. This
seems to me to be a good outcome.

Let's say that the honest preferences are one of the following two scenarios, and the voters don't know which: 35 or 35: A>B>C 10 or 20: B>A>C 15 or 05: B>C>A 40 or 40: C>B>A Under SARA, the most naive/honest heuristic would probably be to rate the middle preference "abstain", yielding the following: 35 or 35: A>>B>C 10 or 20: B>>A>C 15 or 05: B>>C>A 40 or 40: C>>B>A Points: A70, B50, C80. This gives a win to C or A, depending on which scenario is true. Clearly, if all the B voters truncate, that's sufficient to elect B. But let's say that the B voters are not actually that highly motivated to strategize against their second choice, so they don't do that. In scenario 2, the C voters can ensure that A can't win if 25 of them switch to C>B>>A. This would give B 75 points, enough to beat A in scenario 2 but not enough to beat C in scenario 1. But if the A voters anticipate this, then they have no hope of winning, even in scenario 2; and thus, to avoid loss in scenario 1, all of them will switch to A>B>>C. In that case, even if none of the C voters actually strategize, B will still get at least 85; enough to win outright. So the following ballots will be stable: p1 or (1-p1) 35 or 35: A>B>>C at p2 or A>>B>C at (1-p2) 10 or 20: B>>A>C 15 or 05: B>>C>A 15 or 15: C>>B>A 25 or 25: C>B>>A at p3 or C>>B>A at (1-p3). Results: (p1, p2, p3: result) n,n,n: A y,n,n: C n,y,n: B y,y,n: B n,n,y: B y,n,y: C n,y,y: B y,y,y: B So if the payoff for B is 0, the A voters face a choice between a payoff of Aa(1-p1)(1-p3)-Ac(p1)(p3). Insofar as B is over 50% of the utility of A, so that Aa (the benefit they get from A winning) is less than Ac (the penalty for C winning), the C voters must leave p3 less than .5 if they are to tempt the A voters to not to give B points. Yet the payoff for the C voters is strictly better the higher p3 is; leaving p low enough to tempt the A voters not to give B points is dominated. Thus, (p2=p3=1 and so B wins with certainty) is the subgame-perfect equilibrium. If you're looking for a "trembling hand" equilibrium, B will only lose insofar as the hands are very trembly and/or B is the score loser. This seems to me to be a good outcome.
JQ
Jameson Quinn
Sun, Oct 23, 2016 7:47 PM

The tld̦r (too long, didn't read; that is, summary) on my previous message
is:

In SARA, in a center squeeze situation where the sympathies of the center
group aren't obvious, the strategic equilibrium is for the center group to
win through "accept" votes from the two wings. This works even if voters
only strategize against their third choice, not their second. This latter
characteristic does not hold for most other voting systems, even really
good ones like ICT or MAM.

2016-10-23 14:43 GMT-04:00 Jameson Quinn jameson.quinn@gmail.com:

Let's say that the honest preferences are one of the following two
scenarios, and the voters don't know which:

35 or 35: A>B>C
10 or 20: B>A>C
15 or 05: B>C>A
40 or 40: C>B>A

Under SARA, the most naive/honest heuristic would probably be to rate the
middle preference "abstain", yielding the following:

35 or 35: A>>B>C
10 or 20: B>>A>C
15 or 05: B>>C>A
40 or 40: C>>B>A

Points: A70, B50, C80.
This gives a win to C or A, depending on which scenario is true.

Clearly, if all the B voters truncate, that's sufficient to elect B. But
let's say that the B voters are not actually that highly motivated to
strategize against their second choice, so they don't do that.

In scenario 2, the C voters can ensure that A can't win if 25 of them
switch to C>B>>A. This would give B 75 points, enough to beat A in scenario
2 but not enough to beat C in scenario 1.

But if the A voters anticipate this, then they have no hope of winning,
even in scenario 2; and thus, to avoid loss in scenario 1, all of them will
switch to A>B>>C. In that case, even if none of the C voters actually
strategize, B will still get at least 85; enough to win outright. So the
following ballots will be stable:

p1 or (1-p1)
35 or 35: A>B>>C at p2 or A>>B>C at (1-p2)
10 or 20: B>>A>C
15 or 05: B>>C>A
15 or 15: C>>B>A
25 or 25: C>B>>A at p3 or C>>B>A at (1-p3).

Results: (p1, p2, p3: result)
n,n,n: A
y,n,n: C
n,y,n: B
y,y,n: B
n,n,y: B
y,n,y: C
n,y,y: B
y,y,y: B

So if the payoff for B is 0, the A voters face a choice between a payoff
of Aa(1-p1)(1-p3)-Ac(p1)(p3). Insofar as B is over 50% of the utility of A,
so that Aa (the benefit they get from A winning) is less than Ac (the
penalty for C winning), the C voters must leave p3 less than .5 if they are
to tempt the A voters to not to give B points. Yet the payoff for the C
voters is strictly better the higher p3 is; leaving p low enough to tempt
the A voters not to give B points is dominated. Thus, (p2=p3=1 and so B
wins with certainty) is the subgame-perfect equilibrium.

If you're looking for a "trembling hand" equilibrium, B will only lose
insofar as the hands are very trembly and/or B is the score loser. This
seems to me to be a good outcome.

The tld̦r (too long, didn't read; that is, summary) on my previous message is: In SARA, in a center squeeze situation where the sympathies of the center group aren't obvious, the strategic equilibrium is for the center group to win through "accept" votes from the two wings. This works even if voters only strategize against their third choice, not their second. This latter characteristic does not hold for most other voting systems, even really good ones like ICT or MAM. 2016-10-23 14:43 GMT-04:00 Jameson Quinn <jameson.quinn@gmail.com>: > Let's say that the honest preferences are one of the following two > scenarios, and the voters don't know which: > > 35 or 35: A>B>C > 10 or 20: B>A>C > 15 or 05: B>C>A > 40 or 40: C>B>A > > Under SARA, the most naive/honest heuristic would probably be to rate the > middle preference "abstain", yielding the following: > > 35 or 35: A>>B>C > 10 or 20: B>>A>C > 15 or 05: B>>C>A > 40 or 40: C>>B>A > > Points: A70, B50, C80. > This gives a win to C or A, depending on which scenario is true. > > Clearly, if all the B voters truncate, that's sufficient to elect B. But > let's say that the B voters are not actually that highly motivated to > strategize against their second choice, so they don't do that. > > In scenario 2, the C voters can ensure that A can't win if 25 of them > switch to C>B>>A. This would give B 75 points, enough to beat A in scenario > 2 but not enough to beat C in scenario 1. > > But if the A voters anticipate this, then they have no hope of winning, > even in scenario 2; and thus, to avoid loss in scenario 1, all of them will > switch to A>B>>C. In that case, even if none of the C voters actually > strategize, B will still get at least 85; enough to win outright. So the > following ballots will be stable: > > p1 or (1-p1) > 35 or 35: A>B>>C at p2 or A>>B>C at (1-p2) > 10 or 20: B>>A>C > 15 or 05: B>>C>A > 15 or 15: C>>B>A > 25 or 25: C>B>>A at p3 or C>>B>A at (1-p3). > > Results: (p1, p2, p3: result) > n,n,n: A > y,n,n: C > n,y,n: B > y,y,n: B > n,n,y: B > y,n,y: C > n,y,y: B > y,y,y: B > > So if the payoff for B is 0, the A voters face a choice between a payoff > of Aa(1-p1)(1-p3)-Ac(p1)(p3). Insofar as B is over 50% of the utility of A, > so that Aa (the benefit they get from A winning) is less than Ac (the > penalty for C winning), the C voters must leave p3 less than .5 if they are > to tempt the A voters to not to give B points. Yet the payoff for the C > voters is strictly better the higher p3 is; leaving p low enough to tempt > the A voters not to give B points is dominated. Thus, (p2=p3=1 and so B > wins with certainty) is the subgame-perfect equilibrium. > > If you're looking for a "trembling hand" equilibrium, B will only lose > insofar as the hands are very trembly and/or B is the score loser. This > seems to me to be a good outcome. > > >