---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Michael Garman <michael.garman@rankthevote.us> Date: Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [EM] No. Condorcet and Hare do not share the same problem with computational complexity and process transparency. To: robert bristow-johnson <rbj@audioimagination.com> >> That's a lie. And you just made it up. I stand corrected. 10 days, not 15. Alaska Stat. §15.20.081(e) and (h) 10 days after a Tuesday is...Friday. Received by the close of business Friday. Add in the weekend. Come back on Monday and it's day 13. I can't explain the other two days, fine. On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 10:03 PM robert bristow-johnson < rbj@audioimagination.com> wrote: > > > > On 03/20/2024 4:49 PM EDT Michael Garman <michael.garman@rankthevote.us> > wrote: > > > > > > > IRV is the inferior method and it leaves the impression with some > voters and media people that something is hidden for two weeks. > > > > Again, you’re being disingenuous. The Alaska issue was a problem with > mail ballots, which is an entirely different debate. > > > > That's a lie. And you just made it up. > > They had mail-in ballots before RCV. But they didn't have 15 days of > delayed results before RCV. > > How long does it take to get all of the ballot data (the ballots > themselves, if the polling places are so small that they hand count) from > every corner of the state (like Barrow) to the central tabulation location > in Juneau? > > Now in Maine, it took 10 days to announce results. First day was just > giving the town clerks a day to get their act together. 4 days were spent > securely fetching ballots or ballot data. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrRV_a0VYuY . > > -- > > r b-j . _ . _ . _ . _ rbj@audioimagination.com > > "Imagination is more important than knowledge." > > . > . > . > ---- > Election-Methods mailing list - see https://electorama.com/em for list > info >

Also, I wonder if anything changed since 2019 to cause more Alaska voters to rely on mail ballots. Hmmm? On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 10:09 PM Michael Garman < michael.garman@rankthevote.us> wrote: > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Michael Garman <michael.garman@rankthevote.us> > Date: Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 10:09 PM > Subject: Re: [EM] No. Condorcet and Hare do not share the same problem > with computational complexity and process transparency. > To: robert bristow-johnson <rbj@audioimagination.com> > > > >> That's a lie. And you just made it up. > > I stand corrected. 10 days, not 15. Alaska Stat. §15.20.081(e) and (h) > > 10 days after a Tuesday is...Friday. Received by the close of business > Friday. Add in the weekend. Come back on Monday and it's day 13. I can't > explain the other two days, fine. > > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 10:03 PM robert bristow-johnson < > rbj@audioimagination.com> wrote: > >> >> >> > On 03/20/2024 4:49 PM EDT Michael Garman <michael.garman@rankthevote.us> >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > > IRV is the inferior method and it leaves the impression with some >> voters and media people that something is hidden for two weeks. >> > >> > Again, you’re being disingenuous. The Alaska issue was a problem with >> mail ballots, which is an entirely different debate. >> > >> >> That's a lie. And you just made it up. >> >> They had mail-in ballots before RCV. But they didn't have 15 days of >> delayed results before RCV. >> >> How long does it take to get all of the ballot data (the ballots >> themselves, if the polling places are so small that they hand count) from >> every corner of the state (like Barrow) to the central tabulation location >> in Juneau? >> >> Now in Maine, it took 10 days to announce results. First day was just >> giving the town clerks a day to get their act together. 4 days were spent >> securely fetching ballots or ballot data. >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrRV_a0VYuY . >> >> -- >> >> r b-j . _ . _ . _ . _ rbj@audioimagination.com >> >> "Imagination is more important than knowledge." >> >> . >> . >> . >> ---- >> Election-Methods mailing list - see https://electorama.com/em for list >> info >> >