Had you not already? Good to have you back :-) On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 11:02 PM Michael Ossipoff <email9648742@gmail.com> wrote: > Blocking that Dunning-Kruger ctackpot. > > On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 7:56 PM Michael Garman < > michael.garman@rankthevote.us> wrote: > >> Where did I say “eliminate”? The only use of that word I can find in my >> archives is me saying FV updated its messaging guidance from “eliminate” to >> “reduce.” >> >> Nice to see that even though you’ve taken to advocating for RCV (as >> you’ll now willingly call it), you haven’t lost your passion for unhinged >> screeds :-) >> >> On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 10:49 PM Michael Ossipoff <email9648742@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Incorrect. Michael Garman is misrepresenting what I said. >>> >>> I advocated for RCV for a long time on EM & everywhere else too. >>> >>> What I criticized about Garman was his false claim that RCV eliminates >>> the spoiler-problem. >>> >>> Wrong. It “only” eliminates the spoiler-problem for members of the >>> Mutual-Majority. …but that’s good enough. Not many methods do so. >>> >>> Approval, Score & star don’t do so for ***anyone***. >>> >>> Could one ask for more? Well RP(wv) & MinMax(wv) effectively pretty-much >>> do so everyone. >>> >>> …at the unacceptable cost of fast becoming unhandcountable with more >>> than a few candidates…with the consequent greater count-fraud problem. As I >>> said: Unacceptable. >>> >>> Garman’s falsehood was (& still is?) discrediting RCV. >>> >>> Michael Ossipoff >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 7:51 AM Michael Garman < >>> michael.garman@rankthevote.us> wrote: >>> >>>> I'd be curious to learn why he changed his mind. He was nothing short >>>> of hostile to anyone who suggested it was even a minor improvement from FPP >>>> while he was on this list. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 10:42 AM Markus Schulze via Election-Methods < >>>> election-methods@lists.electorama.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> After 30 years, Mike Ossipoff had a change of hearts and now promotes >>>>> instant-runoff voting: >>>>> >>>>> https://democracychronicles.org/why-ranked-choice-voting-is-the-best-choice/ >>>>> ---- >>>>> Election-Methods mailing list - see https://electorama.com/em for >>>>> list info >>>>> >>>>