Where did I say “eliminate”? The only use of that word I can find in my archives is me saying FV updated its messaging guidance from “eliminate” to “reduce.” Nice to see that even though you’ve taken to advocating for RCV (as you’ll now willingly call it), you haven’t lost your passion for unhinged screeds :-) On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 10:49 PM Michael Ossipoff <email9648742@gmail.com> wrote: > Incorrect. Michael Garman is misrepresenting what I said. > > I advocated for RCV for a long time on EM & everywhere else too. > > What I criticized about Garman was his false claim that RCV eliminates the > spoiler-problem. > > Wrong. It “only” eliminates the spoiler-problem for members of the > Mutual-Majority. …but that’s good enough. Not many methods do so. > > Approval, Score & star don’t do so for ***anyone***. > > Could one ask for more? Well RP(wv) & MinMax(wv) effectively pretty-much > do so everyone. > > …at the unacceptable cost of fast becoming unhandcountable with more than > a few candidates…with the consequent greater count-fraud problem. As I > said: Unacceptable. > > Garman’s falsehood was (& still is?) discrediting RCV. > > Michael Ossipoff > > On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 7:51 AM Michael Garman < > michael.garman@rankthevote.us> wrote: > >> I'd be curious to learn why he changed his mind. He was nothing short of >> hostile to anyone who suggested it was even a minor improvement from FPP >> while he was on this list. >> >> On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 10:42 AM Markus Schulze via Election-Methods < >> election-methods@lists.electorama.com> wrote: >> >>> After 30 years, Mike Ossipoff had a change of hearts and now promotes >>> instant-runoff voting: >>> >>> https://democracychronicles.org/why-ranked-choice-voting-is-the-best-choice/ >>> ---- >>> Election-Methods mailing list - see https://electorama.com/em for list >>> info >>> >>