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Re: [EM] "Double Defeat, Hare" poll candidate

RB
robert bristow-johnson
Wed, Apr 17, 2024 6:11 PM

Michael Ossipoff wrote:> I was discouraged when It seemed like Garman’s & Robert’s contrarinesses-for-its own-sake was the state-of affairs. When have I ever been a "contrarian-for-its-own-sake"?I am a Condorcet partisan (regarding single-winner elections).I have good reasons for being an exclusive Condorcet partisan.  I am and have been completely consistent about it.  If I am contradicting someone here, it's likely only motivated by that.

Michael Ossipoff wrote:> I was discouraged when It seemed like Garman’s & Robert’s contrarinesses-for-its own-sake was the state-of affairs. When have I ever been a "contrarian-for-its-own-sake"?I am a Condorcet partisan (regarding single-winner elections).I have good reasons for being an exclusive Condorcet partisan.  I am and have been completely consistent about it.  If I am contradicting someone here, it's likely only motivated by that.
MG
Michael Garman
Wed, Apr 17, 2024 6:20 PM

I’m also curious where I’ve been a “contrarian for its own sake.” My ideas
might not be common on here, but I’ve been consistent in what I support and
advocate for.

On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 8:12 PM robert bristow-johnson <
rbj@audioimagination.com> wrote:

Michael Ossipoff wrote:

I was discouraged when It seemed like Garman’s & Robert’s

contrarinesses-for-its own-sake was the state-of affairs.

When have I ever been a "contrarian-for-its-own-sake"?

I am a Condorcet partisan (regarding single-winner elections).

I have good reasons for being an exclusive Condorcet partisan.  I am and
have been completely consistent about it.  If I am contradicting someone
here, it's likely only motivated by that.

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I’m also curious where I’ve been a “contrarian for its own sake.” My ideas might not be common on here, but I’ve been consistent in what I support and advocate for. On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 8:12 PM robert bristow-johnson < rbj@audioimagination.com> wrote: > > Michael Ossipoff wrote: > > I was discouraged when It seemed like Garman’s & Robert’s > contrarinesses-for-its own-sake was the state-of affairs. > > When have I ever been a "contrarian-for-its-own-sake"? > > I am a Condorcet partisan (regarding single-winner elections). > > I have good reasons for being an exclusive Condorcet partisan. I am and > have been completely consistent about it. If I am contradicting someone > here, it's likely only motivated by that. > ---- > Election-Methods mailing list - see https://electorama.com/em for list > info >
MO
Michael Ossipoff
Wed, Apr 17, 2024 6:23 PM

Robert—

No I just meant about the poll.

wv Condorcet is the thing to offer to jurisdictions where people insist on
rankings, & to political parties whose members expect a rank-balloting
proposal…& for certain kinds of polls, such as the current one here.

Margins Condorcet doesn’t really avoid IRV’s & Plurality’s strategy
problem. CW, Plurality is no better. Expensive Plurality.

On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 11:13 robert bristow-johnson <
rbj@audioimagination.com> wrote:

Michael Ossipoff wrote:

I was discouraged when It seemed like Garman’s & Robert’s

contrarinesses-for-its own-sake was the state-of affairs.

When have I ever been a "contrarian-for-its-own-sake"?

I am a Condorcet partisan (regarding single-winner elections).

I have good reasons for being an exclusive Condorcet partisan.  I am and
have been completely consistent about it.  If I am contradicting someone
here, it's likely only motivated by that.

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info

Robert— No I just meant about the poll. wv Condorcet is the thing to offer to jurisdictions where people insist on rankings, & to political parties whose members expect a rank-balloting proposal…& for certain kinds of polls, such as the current one here. Margins Condorcet doesn’t really avoid IRV’s & Plurality’s strategy problem. CW, Plurality is no better. Expensive Plurality. On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 11:13 robert bristow-johnson < rbj@audioimagination.com> wrote: > > Michael Ossipoff wrote: > > I was discouraged when It seemed like Garman’s & Robert’s > contrarinesses-for-its own-sake was the state-of affairs. > > When have I ever been a "contrarian-for-its-own-sake"? > > I am a Condorcet partisan (regarding single-winner elections). > > I have good reasons for being an exclusive Condorcet partisan. I am and > have been completely consistent about it. If I am contradicting someone > here, it's likely only motivated by that. > ---- > Election-Methods mailing list - see https://electorama.com/em for list > info >