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Re: [EM] Definite Approval/Disapproval

KM
Kristofer Munsterhjelm
Mon, May 9, 2022 8:36 AM

On 09.05.2022 07:31, Forest Simmons wrote:

On top of that, the differences in those apportionment rules are not
nearly as consequential as the gerrymandering, the electoral college,
and even the Banzhaf power indices of the states, districts, and voters.
For example, even though small states have excess representation in
congress and the electoral college due to the two senators rule, they
tend to suffer lower power in terms of the probability of individual
votes being pivotal. 

I wonder if the Banzhaf power index is taken seriously in European
parliaments.

The Council of the European Union is weighted in a way that sorta looks
like the square-root allocation you'd get if you were going by power
indices. But not entirely.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penrose_method#The_EU_proposal

Every country I know of (that is proportional at all) uses ordinary
(arithmetic) proportionality for its national assemblies.

-km

On 09.05.2022 07:31, Forest Simmons wrote: > > > On top of that, the differences in those apportionment rules are not > nearly as consequential as the gerrymandering, the electoral college, > and even the Banzhaf power indices of the states, districts, and voters. > For example, even though small states have excess representation in > congress and the electoral college due to the two senators rule, they > tend to suffer lower power in terms of the probability of individual > votes being pivotal.  > > I wonder if the Banzhaf power index is taken seriously in European > parliaments. The Council of the European Union is weighted in a way that sorta looks like the square-root allocation you'd get if you were going by power indices. But not entirely. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penrose_method#The_EU_proposal Every country I know of (that is proportional at all) uses ordinary (arithmetic) proportionality for its national assemblies. -km
FS
Forest Simmons
Tue, May 10, 2022 3:17 AM

El lun., 9 de may. de 2022 1:36 a. m., Kristofer Munsterhjelm <
km_elmet@t-online.de> escribió:

On 09.05.2022 07:31, Forest Simmons wrote:

On top of that, the differences in those apportionment rules are not
nearly as consequential as the gerrymandering, the electoral college,
and even the Banzhaf power indices of the states, districts, and voters.
For example, even though small states have excess representation in
congress and the electoral college due to the two senators rule, they
tend to suffer lower power in terms of the probability of individual
votes being pivotal.

I wonder if the Banzhaf power index is taken seriously in European
parliaments.

The Council of the European Union is weighted in a way that sorta looks
like the square-root allocation you'd get if you were going by power
indices.

I wonder if the larger entities have complained about that adjustment the
way larger states here have resented the mistakenly assumed excess power of
the smaller states.

But not entirely.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penrose_method#The_EU_proposal

Every country I know of (that is proportional at all) uses ordinary
(arithmetic) proportionality for its national assemblies.

-km

El lun., 9 de may. de 2022 1:36 a. m., Kristofer Munsterhjelm < km_elmet@t-online.de> escribió: > On 09.05.2022 07:31, Forest Simmons wrote: > > > > > > On top of that, the differences in those apportionment rules are not > > nearly as consequential as the gerrymandering, the electoral college, > > and even the Banzhaf power indices of the states, districts, and voters. > > For example, even though small states have excess representation in > > congress and the electoral college due to the two senators rule, they > > tend to suffer lower power in terms of the probability of individual > > votes being pivotal. > > > > I wonder if the Banzhaf power index is taken seriously in European > > parliaments. > > The Council of the European Union is weighted in a way that sorta looks > like the square-root allocation you'd get if you were going by power > indices. I wonder if the larger entities have complained about that adjustment the way larger states here have resented the mistakenly assumed excess power of the smaller states. But not entirely. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penrose_method#The_EU_proposal > > Every country I know of (that is proportional at all) uses ordinary > (arithmetic) proportionality for its national assemblies. > > -km >