CVR available here
https://vote.minneapolismn.gov/results-data/election-results/2021/council-ward-2/
Wow! Thank you for this information!
Did you parse and tally this yourself? Do you have the actual pairwise tallies?
I'm only coding in MATLAB of late. I am cringing at writing decent code to parse this.
robert
On 09/14/2022 5:28 PM EDT Andy Dienes andydienes@gmail.com wrote:
CVR available here https://vote.minneapolismn.gov/results-data/election-results/2021/council-ward-2/
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On 9/14/22 23:28, Andy Dienes wrote:
CVR available here
https://vote.minneapolismn.gov/results-data/election-results/2021/council-ward-2/
https://vote.minneapolismn.gov/results-data/election-results/2021/council-ward-2/
Looks right! Nice! I've attached the ballots in the more familiar EM format.
If we eliminate everybody but the Smith set, the ballots become:
1572: Arab
775: Arab>Gordon
133: Arab>Gordon>Worlobah
592: Arab>Worlobah
164: Arab>Worlobah>Gordon
822: Gordon
596: Gordon>Arab
205: Gordon>Arab>Worlobah
843: Gordon>Worlobah
334: Gordon>Worlobah>Arab
492: Worlobah
750: Worlobah>Arab
338: Worlobah>Arab>Gordon
852: Worlobah>Gordon
447: Worlobah>Gordon>Arab
There's an Arab>Gordon>Worlobah>Arab cycle. Schulze and Minmax-type
methods elect Arab (whether restricted to the Smith set or not). fpA-fpC
restricted to the Smith set would give:
fpArab = 3236
fpGordon = 2800
fpWorlobah = 2879
score(Arab) = 3236 - 2879 = 357
score(Gordon) = 2800 - 3236 = -436
score(Worlobah) = 2879 - 2800 = 79
and thus elect Arab. Smith//IRV would eliminate Gordon and then Worlobah
beats Arab pairwise.
At least plain IRV chose a Smith set member here! But most of the actual
Condorcet methods prefer Arab.
The first preferences before elimination are:
fpAnderson = 982
fpArab = 2719
fpGaskin = 546
fpGordon = 2508
fpUWI = 9
fpWorlobah = 2763
So Friendly Cover would go: all Smith set members cover all the
non-Smith members, so everybody has {Anderson, Gaskin, UWI} as friends,
with a first preference sum of 1537. Then
Arab has himself as friend and Worlobah as defeater.
Score = 2719 + 1537 - 2763 = 1493
Gordon has himself as friend and Arab as defeater.
Score = 2508 + 1537 - 2719 = 1326
Worlobah has himself as friend and Gordon as defeater.
Score = 2763 + 1537 - 2508 = 1792,
and Worlobah wins.
So it agrees with Smith//IRV but not with itself restricted to the Smith
set, hence failing ISDA. I'm inclined to believe that Arab is the right
choice since so many other methods agree.
-km
On 9/15/22 13:05, Kristofer Munsterhjelm wrote:
On 9/14/22 23:28, Andy Dienes wrote:
CVR available here
https://vote.minneapolismn.gov/results-data/election-results/2021/council-ward-2/
https://vote.minneapolismn.gov/results-data/election-results/2021/council-ward-2/
Looks right! Nice! I've attached the ballots in the more familiar EM
format.
Just a correction to myself: my parser used the last word of the
candidate's listed name as the short candidate name. But apparently the
CSV uses a "First Last Middle" mixed-endian format for names. Thus
Worlobah should be Wonsley: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_Wonsley
-km
It's interesting that there was mandatory truncation in the election:
voters were asked to rank "up to three candidates". That is something i
hadn't considered in another thread.
CJC
On 15/09/2022 12:05, Kristofer Munsterhjelm wrote:
On 9/14/22 23:28, Andy Dienes wrote:
CVR available here
https://vote.minneapolismn.gov/results-data/election-results/2021/council-ward-2/
https://vote.minneapolismn.gov/results-data/election-results/2021/council-ward-2/
Looks right! Nice! I've attached the ballots in the more familiar EM
format.
If we eliminate everybody but the Smith set, the ballots become:
1572: Arab
775: Arab>Gordon
133: Arab>Gordon>Worlobah
592: Arab>Worlobah
164: Arab>Worlobah>Gordon
822: Gordon
596: Gordon>Arab
205: Gordon>Arab>Worlobah
843: Gordon>Worlobah
334: Gordon>Worlobah>Arab
492: Worlobah
750: Worlobah>Arab
338: Worlobah>Arab>Gordon
852: Worlobah>Gordon
447: Worlobah>Gordon>Arab
There's an Arab>Gordon>Worlobah>Arab cycle. Schulze and Minmax-type
methods elect Arab (whether restricted to the Smith set or not).
fpA-fpC restricted to the Smith set would give:
fpArab = 3236
fpGordon = 2800
fpWorlobah = 2879
score(Arab) = 3236 - 2879 = 357
score(Gordon) = 2800 - 3236 = -436
score(Worlobah) = 2879 - 2800 = 79
and thus elect Arab. Smith//IRV would eliminate Gordon and then
Worlobah beats Arab pairwise.
At least plain IRV chose a Smith set member here! But most of the
actual Condorcet methods prefer Arab.
The first preferences before elimination are:
fpAnderson = 982
fpArab = 2719
fpGaskin = 546
fpGordon = 2508
fpUWI = 9
fpWorlobah = 2763
So Friendly Cover would go: all Smith set members cover all the
non-Smith members, so everybody has {Anderson, Gaskin, UWI} as
friends, with a first preference sum of 1537. Then
Arab has himself as friend and Worlobah as defeater.
Score = 2719 + 1537 - 2763 = 1493
Gordon has himself as friend and Arab as defeater.
Score = 2508 + 1537 - 2719 = 1326
Worlobah has himself as friend and Gordon as defeater.
Score = 2763 + 1537 - 2508 = 1792,
and Worlobah wins.
So it agrees with Smith//IRV but not with itself restricted to the
Smith set, hence failing ISDA. I'm inclined to believe that Arab is
the right choice since so many other methods agree.
-km
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On 9/15/22 13:31, Kristofer Munsterhjelm wrote:
On 9/15/22 13:05, Kristofer Munsterhjelm wrote:
On 9/14/22 23:28, Andy Dienes wrote:
CVR available here
https://vote.minneapolismn.gov/results-data/election-results/2021/council-ward-2/
https://vote.minneapolismn.gov/results-data/election-results/2021/council-ward-2/
Looks right! Nice! I've attached the ballots in the more familiar EM
format.
Just a correction to myself: my parser used the last word of the
candidate's listed name as the short candidate name. But apparently the
CSV uses a "First Last Middle" mixed-endian format for names. Thus
Worlobah should be Wonsley: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_Wonsley
Whoops, I need to make another correction, in the Friendly Cover example:
Arab has himself as friend and Worlobah as defeater.
That should be "herself".
And
Worlobah has himself as friend and Gordon as defeater.
Also herself.
Both Yusra Arab and Robin Wonsley are women.
-km
You may find this paper interesting.
[2111.09846] The Curious Case of the 2021 Minneapolis Ward 2 City Council
Election
https://arxiv.org/abs/2111.09846
On Thu, Sep 15, 2022, 7:22 AM Kristofer Munsterhjelm km_elmet@t-online.de
wrote:
On 9/15/22 13:31, Kristofer Munsterhjelm wrote:
On 9/15/22 13:05, Kristofer Munsterhjelm wrote:
On 9/14/22 23:28, Andy Dienes wrote:
CVR available here
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Looks right! Nice! I've attached the ballots in the more familiar EM
format.
Just a correction to myself: my parser used the last word of the
candidate's listed name as the short candidate name. But apparently the
CSV uses a "First Last Middle" mixed-endian format for names. Thus
Worlobah should be Wonsley: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_Wonsley
Whoops, I need to make another correction, in the Friendly Cover example:
Arab has himself as friend and Worlobah as defeater.
That should be "herself".
And
Worlobah has himself as friend and Gordon as defeater.
Also herself.
Both Yusra Arab and Robin Wonsley are women.
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