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betterpolls.com relaunched

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Brian Olson
Mon, Dec 7, 2015 6:03 PM

I have relaunched my election tool
http://betterpolls.com/

It’s a simplified and streamlined tool now. It’s currently only single-winner elections with ranked or rated ballots counted by Virtual Round Robin (Condorcet’s method) or my pet method Instant Runoff Normalized Ratings.

It’s all about social networking now. It requires a Google or Facebook id to create a poll or to vote[1][2]. There are lots of buttons for sharing a poll.

On the TODO list:

  • multi-winner elections via STV or proportional Instant Runoff Normalized Ratings.
  • vote analytics, showing histograms of how people voted on each choice
  • hidden-until-poll-close results
  • anonymized vote data dump
  • Anything else I missed? Any feature requests?

[1] Yes, a really motivated person could vote twice, or make more accounts and vote more often. For now I’m not worrying about that.
[2] Some people will be dissuaded from using the tool to create polls or vote because of this requirement. This feels like a pretty small minority of the internet right now. I may yet add back username-password login accounts, but it simplifies things for me to not do that. Some pretty big parts of the internet aren’t even as generous as offering both options and require Facebook login to do anything.

I have relaunched my election tool http://betterpolls.com/ It’s a simplified and streamlined tool now. It’s currently only single-winner elections with ranked or rated ballots counted by Virtual Round Robin (Condorcet’s method) or my pet method Instant Runoff Normalized Ratings. It’s all about social networking now. It requires a Google or Facebook id to create a poll or to vote[1][2]. There are lots of buttons for sharing a poll. On the TODO list: * multi-winner elections via STV or proportional Instant Runoff Normalized Ratings. * vote analytics, showing histograms of how people voted on each choice * hidden-until-poll-close results * anonymized vote data dump * Anything else I missed? Any feature requests? [1] Yes, a really motivated person could vote twice, or make more accounts and vote more often. For now I’m not worrying about that. [2] Some people will be dissuaded from using the tool to create polls or vote because of this requirement. This feels like a pretty small minority of the internet right now. I may yet add back username-password login accounts, but it simplifies things for me to not do that. Some pretty big parts of the internet aren’t even as generous as offering both options and require Facebook login to do anything.
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Richard Lung
Mon, Dec 7, 2015 8:05 PM

To Brian Olson and Election Methods members,

On your TODO list, you mention multi-winner elections.
There is at least one programming organisation (OpenSTV, I believe) who
reckons to have done all the variants of STV. However, they have not
done Binomial STV (my innovation). The most ideally placed person to do
this would be someone who has already coded Meek STV (as in New Zealand)
because Binomial STV follows on from the Meek key concept of the
re-adjustable keep value.
However, with Binomial STV, not just the keep values of surplus vote
candidates are counted but also candidates with deficits of the keep
value. This is to enable comparison of the status of all candidates, in
a series of systematic re-counts, without premature exclusion of
candidates.
That means that even in single seat elections, Binomial STV can elect
without excluding candidates, and without resorting to Condorcet
pairing, which does not make one over-all comparison of the candidates.

The most basic form of Binomial STV is first order Binomial STV, which
is a preferential count of all the candidates keep values, in surplus or
deficit of a quota, and then a reverse preferential count. The keep
values of un-preference are inverted and then averaged with the
preferential keep values, to give average keep values for all the
candidates.
In order not to give the reverse preference count undue importance,
compared to the preference count, all the preferences are counted,
including preference abstentions, which are at the end of the ballot
papers, reducing the importance of reverse preferences, unless the voter
has ranked all the candidates.
With Binomial STV, returning a blank ballot paper is equivalent to: None
Of The Above.
Binomial STV is explained in my second e-book on election reform and
research.
I have studied this subject all my adult life, to past pension age.
For your interest, please consult Free from Smashwords:

Peace-making Power-sharing:
https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/542631

Scientific Method of Elections:
https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/548524

Amazon charge a minimum fee.
Peace-making Power-sharing:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XM3CE2O

The second book also out at Amazon now:
"Scientific Method of Elections"
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00Z4QIAPC

Thankyou for your time.
Richard Lung. **

On 07/12/2015 18:03, Brian Olson wrote:

I have relaunched my election tool
http://betterpolls.com/

It’s a simplified and streamlined tool now. It’s currently only single-winner elections with ranked or rated ballots counted by Virtual Round Robin (Condorcet’s method) or my pet method Instant Runoff Normalized Ratings.

It’s all about social networking now. It requires a Google or Facebook id to create a poll or to vote[1][2]. There are lots of buttons for sharing a poll.

On the TODO list:

  • multi-winner elections via STV or proportional Instant Runoff Normalized Ratings.
  • vote analytics, showing histograms of how people voted on each choice
  • hidden-until-poll-close results
  • anonymized vote data dump
  • Anything else I missed? Any feature requests?

[1] Yes, a really motivated person could vote twice, or make more accounts and vote more often. For now I’m not worrying about that.
[2] Some people will be dissuaded from using the tool to create polls or vote because of this requirement. This feels like a pretty small minority of the internet right now. I may yet add back username-password login accounts, but it simplifies things for me to not do that. Some pretty big parts of the internet aren’t even as generous as offering both options and require Facebook login to do anything.

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To Brian Olson and Election Methods members, On your TODO list, you mention multi-winner elections. There is at least one programming organisation (OpenSTV, I believe) who reckons to have done all the variants of STV. However, they have not done Binomial STV (my innovation). The most ideally placed person to do this would be someone who has already coded Meek STV (as in New Zealand) because Binomial STV follows on from the Meek key concept of the re-adjustable keep value. However, with Binomial STV, not just the keep values of surplus vote candidates are counted but also candidates with deficits of the keep value. This is to enable comparison of the status of all candidates, in a series of systematic re-counts, without premature exclusion of candidates. That means that even in single seat elections, Binomial STV can elect without excluding candidates, and without resorting to Condorcet pairing, which does not make one over-all comparison of the candidates. The most basic form of Binomial STV is first order Binomial STV, which is a preferential count of all the candidates keep values, in surplus or deficit of a quota, and then a reverse preferential count. The keep values of un-preference are inverted and then averaged with the preferential keep values, to give average keep values for all the candidates. In order not to give the reverse preference count undue importance, compared to the preference count, all the preferences are counted, including preference abstentions, which are at the end of the ballot papers, reducing the importance of reverse preferences, unless the voter has ranked all the candidates. With Binomial STV, returning a blank ballot paper is equivalent to: None Of The Above. Binomial STV is explained in my second e-book on election reform and research. I have studied this subject all my adult life, to past pension age. For your interest, please consult Free from Smashwords: Peace-making Power-sharing: https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/542631 Scientific Method of Elections: https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/548524 Amazon charge a minimum fee. Peace-making Power-sharing: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XM3CE2O The second book also out at Amazon now: "Scientific Method of Elections" http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00Z4QIAPC Thankyou for your time. Richard Lung. ** On 07/12/2015 18:03, Brian Olson wrote: > I have relaunched my election tool > http://betterpolls.com/ > > It’s a simplified and streamlined tool now. It’s currently only single-winner elections with ranked or rated ballots counted by Virtual Round Robin (Condorcet’s method) or my pet method Instant Runoff Normalized Ratings. > > It’s all about social networking now. It requires a Google or Facebook id to create a poll or to vote[1][2]. There are lots of buttons for sharing a poll. > > > On the TODO list: > * multi-winner elections via STV or proportional Instant Runoff Normalized Ratings. > * vote analytics, showing histograms of how people voted on each choice > * hidden-until-poll-close results > * anonymized vote data dump > * Anything else I missed? Any feature requests? > > > [1] Yes, a really motivated person could vote twice, or make more accounts and vote more often. For now I’m not worrying about that. > [2] Some people will be dissuaded from using the tool to create polls or vote because of this requirement. This feels like a pretty small minority of the internet right now. I may yet add back username-password login accounts, but it simplifies things for me to not do that. Some pretty big parts of the internet aren’t even as generous as offering both options and require Facebook login to do anything. > ---- > Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info