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RB
robert bristow-johnson
Wed, Feb 8, 2023 4:32 PM

Occasionally I get an email

I am concerned, because I occasionally get a note saying that I have been removed from the list because of some excessive bounces, that maybe this is not getting out.

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r b-j . _ . _ . _ . _ rbj@audioimagination.com

"Imagination is more important than knowledge."

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Occasionally I get an email I am concerned, because I occasionally get a note saying that I have been removed from the list because of some excessive bounces, that maybe this is not getting out. -- r b-j . _ . _ . _ . _ rbj@audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge." . . .
KM
Kristofer Munsterhjelm
Thu, Feb 9, 2023 11:21 AM

On 2/8/23 17:32, robert bristow-johnson wrote:

Occasionally I get an email

I am concerned, because I occasionally get a note saying that I have
been removed from the list because of some excessive bounces, that
maybe this is not getting out.

I see all three of your posts FWIW :-)

-km

On 2/8/23 17:32, robert bristow-johnson wrote: > Occasionally I get an email > > I am concerned, because I occasionally get a note saying that I have > been removed from the list because of some excessive bounces, that > maybe this is not getting out. I see all three of your posts FWIW :-) -km
RB
robert bristow-johnson
Thu, Feb 9, 2023 2:33 PM

On 02/09/2023 6:21 AM EST Kristofer Munsterhjelm km_elmet@t-online.de wrote:

On 2/8/23 17:32, robert bristow-johnson wrote:

Occasionally I get an email

I am concerned, because I occasionally get a note saying that I have
been removed from the list because of some excessive bounces, that
maybe this is not getting out.

I see all three of your posts FWIW :-)

Yup.  You might notice the one marked "2nd try" is time-stamped before the one not so marked.  That one sat in internet purgatory for about 50 minutes before it appeared.  This was one post that I sent out where I was watching with bated breath to see a useful response (and I got one from Omegatron) and I lost patience.

Occasionally, I get some bot response from the list server that tells me that I have been removed from the list because of excessive bounces.  This has happened often enough that I now do nothing in response (except wonder if I really was removed from the list).

Sorry for wasting bandwidth, guys.  (Here's another curiosity -  how many women are on the list?  I don't see any posts from persons that have obviously women's names.)

L8r,

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r b-j . _ . _ . _ . _ rbj@audioimagination.com

"Imagination is more important than knowledge."

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> On 02/09/2023 6:21 AM EST Kristofer Munsterhjelm <km_elmet@t-online.de> wrote: > > > On 2/8/23 17:32, robert bristow-johnson wrote: > > Occasionally I get an email > > > > I am concerned, because I occasionally get a note saying that I have > > been removed from the list because of some excessive bounces, that > > maybe this is not getting out. > > I see all three of your posts FWIW :-) > Yup. You might notice the one marked "2nd try" is time-stamped before the one not so marked. That one sat in internet purgatory for about 50 minutes before it appeared. This was one post that I sent out where I was watching with bated breath to see a useful response (and I got one from Omegatron) and I lost patience. Occasionally, I get some bot response from the list server that tells me that I have been removed from the list because of excessive bounces. This has happened often enough that I now do nothing in response (except wonder if I really *was* removed from the list). Sorry for wasting bandwidth, guys. (Here's another curiosity - how many women are on the list? I don't see any posts from persons that have obviously women's names.) L8r, -- r b-j . _ . _ . _ . _ rbj@audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge." . . .
KM
Kristofer Munsterhjelm
Thu, Feb 9, 2023 3:44 PM

On 09.02.2023 15:33, robert bristow-johnson wrote:

Sorry for wasting bandwidth, guys.  (Here's another curiosity -  how
many women are on the list?  I don't see any posts from persons that
have obviously women's names.)

There's Kathy Dopp, who is an (infrequent) contributor to the list (e.g.
http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com/2021-July/002822.html).
But other than Kathy, I can't think of any; the distribution is very
much skewed male.

-km

On 09.02.2023 15:33, robert bristow-johnson wrote: > Sorry for wasting bandwidth, guys. (Here's another curiosity - how > many women are on the list? I don't see any posts from persons that > have obviously women's names.) There's Kathy Dopp, who is an (infrequent) contributor to the list (e.g. http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com/2021-July/002822.html). But other than Kathy, I can't think of any; the distribution is very much skewed male. -km
MR
Magnus Ringman
Thu, Feb 9, 2023 4:17 PM

+roblan@gmail.com roblan@gmail.com who runs the list: Regarding the
bouncing messages, it may be that the list server software (mailman
http://list.org/) is not configured to handle cryptographic signing of
messages (DKIM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DomainKeys_Identified_Mail).
The different ways that that can be handled are described at
https://wiki.list.org/DEV/DKIM.

There is also guidance from other folks who have run into the same problem,
findable via search engines.

  • Magnus (Lurker; very interested in the topic, but as a layman refraining
    from posting.)

On Thu, Feb 9, 2023 at 3:33 PM robert bristow-johnson <
rbj@audioimagination.com> wrote:

On 02/09/2023 6:21 AM EST Kristofer Munsterhjelm km_elmet@t-online.de

wrote:

On 2/8/23 17:32, robert bristow-johnson wrote:

Occasionally I get an email

I am concerned, because I occasionally get a note saying that I have
been removed from the list because of some excessive bounces, that
maybe this is not getting out.

I see all three of your posts FWIW :-)

Yup.  You might notice the one marked "2nd try" is time-stamped before the
one not so marked.  That one sat in internet purgatory for about 50 minutes
before it appeared.  This was one post that I sent out where I was watching
with bated breath to see a useful response (and I got one from Omegatron)
and I lost patience.

Occasionally, I get some bot response from the list server that tells me
that I have been removed from the list because of excessive bounces.  This
has happened often enough that I now do nothing in response (except wonder
if I really was removed from the list).

Sorry for wasting bandwidth, guys.  (Here's another curiosity -  how many
women are on the list?  I don't see any posts from persons that have
obviously women's names.)

L8r,

--

r b-j . _ . _ . _ . _ rbj@audioimagination.com

"Imagination is more important than knowledge."

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+roblan@gmail.com <roblan@gmail.com> who runs the list: Regarding the bouncing messages, it may be that the list server software (mailman <http://list.org/>) is not configured to handle cryptographic signing of messages (DKIM <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DomainKeys_Identified_Mail>). The different ways that that can be handled are described at https://wiki.list.org/DEV/DKIM. There is also guidance from other folks who have run into the same problem, findable via search engines. - Magnus (Lurker; very interested in the topic, but as a layman refraining from posting.) On Thu, Feb 9, 2023 at 3:33 PM robert bristow-johnson < rbj@audioimagination.com> wrote: > > > > On 02/09/2023 6:21 AM EST Kristofer Munsterhjelm <km_elmet@t-online.de> > wrote: > > > > > > On 2/8/23 17:32, robert bristow-johnson wrote: > > > Occasionally I get an email > > > > > > I am concerned, because I occasionally get a note saying that I have > > > been removed from the list because of some excessive bounces, that > > > maybe this is not getting out. > > > > I see all three of your posts FWIW :-) > > > > Yup. You might notice the one marked "2nd try" is time-stamped before the > one not so marked. That one sat in internet purgatory for about 50 minutes > before it appeared. This was one post that I sent out where I was watching > with bated breath to see a useful response (and I got one from Omegatron) > and I lost patience. > > Occasionally, I get some bot response from the list server that tells me > that I have been removed from the list because of excessive bounces. This > has happened often enough that I now do nothing in response (except wonder > if I really *was* removed from the list). > > Sorry for wasting bandwidth, guys. (Here's another curiosity - how many > women are on the list? I don't see any posts from persons that have > obviously women's names.) > > L8r, > > -- > > r b-j . _ . _ . _ . _ rbj@audioimagination.com > > "Imagination is more important than knowledge." > > . > . > . > ---- > Election-Methods mailing list - see https://electorama.com/em for list > info >