I'd better clarify that I didn't mean that ER Bucklin is my favorite method. I merely meant that the version of ER Bucklin that I described is my favorite Bucklin version. Favorite methods, in order of preference: 1. MDDTR 2. 3-Slot ICT 3. Approval 4. Score 5. ER Bucklin 6. Bucklin (B or A) MDDTR & 3-slot ICT have the advantage of CD in addition to FBC. Obviously, as pairwise-count methods, requiring a wordier definition, and without any use-precedent, they aren't likely to be feasible for a proposal of a 1st reform from Plurality. So, for a 1st reform from Plurality, it's likely limited to: 1. Approval 2. Score 3. ER Bucklin 4. Bucklin (B or A) Bucklin(B or A) allows the voter the option of voting an approval set or a Plain Bucklin ranking. Plain Bucklin is what I call the Bucklin that allows no skipping or equal-ranking. Can anyone post a list of methods that meet both FBC & CD? I guess it would include: MDDTR 3-Slot ICT MMPO (discarded because of "Hitler with 2 votes") NEO (not shown to be implementable in large elections) If any NEO is implementable in large elections, my first impression is that NEO(combo) has a better chance than NEO(cohort), but I'm not even sure of that. Michael Ossipoff