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Vindication

FS
Forest Simmons
Fri, Sep 8, 2023 5:56 PM

Kristofer,

This elimination method helps to explain the "unreasonable effectiveness"
of what we have been calling Max X>Y.

While there remains no unbeaten candidate among the uneliminated...
"vindicate" the victor X and eliminate the loser Y in the strongest
paireise defeat.

Vindication of X is executed by raising X to the level of Y on any ballot
that (misguidedly) ranked Y above X, before eliminating Y.

We say "misguidedly" because X was already ranked above or equal to Y on
the greatest majority of ballots.

So vindication is a new kind of vote transfer that applies when the
strongest (remaining) defeat brings about the elimination.

In the case of three candidates, that kind of vote transfer will be
sufficient to turn X into a majority winner ... and in general, will likely
change the strongest victor into an undefeated candidate.

Example

49 C
26 A>B
25 B

If we measure defeat strength by Winning Votes + Losing Truncations, we see
that the defeat of A by C is strongest: WV+LT = 49+74 = 173.

Vindication updates the ballot profile as

49 C
26 C>B
25 B

So C now defeats B 75 to 25!

Try this out on your favorite ballot profiles, and see if you like it.

fws

Kristofer, This elimination method helps to explain the "unreasonable effectiveness" of what we have been calling Max X>Y. While there remains no unbeaten candidate among the uneliminated... "vindicate" the victor X and eliminate the loser Y in the strongest paireise defeat. Vindication of X is executed by raising X to the level of Y on any ballot that (misguidedly) ranked Y above X, before eliminating Y. We say "misguidedly" because X was already ranked above or equal to Y on the greatest majority of ballots. So vindication is a new kind of vote transfer that applies when the strongest (remaining) defeat brings about the elimination. In the case of three candidates, that kind of vote transfer will be sufficient to turn X into a majority winner ... and in general, will likely change the strongest victor into an undefeated candidate. Example 49 C 26 A>B 25 B If we measure defeat strength by Winning Votes + Losing Truncations, we see that the defeat of A by C is strongest: WV+LT = 49+74 = 173. Vindication updates the ballot profile as 49 C 26 C>B 25 B So C now defeats B 75 to 25! Try this out on your favorite ballot profiles, and see if you like it. fws
FS
Forest Simmons
Sat, Sep 9, 2023 12:17 AM

A slightly simpler version for everyday citizens:

When there is no candidate with more than half of the first rank votes ...

1.Find the candidate X that has the strongest head-to-head victory over any
other candidate Y. This means (i) that X outranks Y on more ballots than Y
outranks X, and (ii) that the number of ballots on which X outranks Y, plus
the number of ballots on which Y out ranks no other candidate, is larger
than the corresponding sum for any other pair of candidates.

  1. Eliminate Y after replacing all of Y's first rank ballot appearances
    with X.

  2. After these two steps if there is still no candidate with more than half
    of the first place votes, repeat steps (1) and (2) among the uneliminated
    candidates, until only one candidate remains.

Note that in each elimination stage the votes of the most strongly defeated
loser are transferred to the winner of that maximal strength defeat. We
call this kind of vote transfer, "vindication" (of the winner).

fws

On Fri, Sep 8, 2023, 10:56 AM Forest Simmons forest.simmons21@gmail.com
wrote:

Kristofer,

This elimination method helps to explain the "unreasonable effectiveness"
of what we have been calling Max X>Y.

While there remains no unbeaten candidate among the uneliminated...
"vindicate" the victor X and eliminate the loser Y in the strongest
pairwise defeat.

Vindication of X is executed by raising X to the level of Y on any ballot
that (misguidedly) ranked Y above X, before eliminating Y.

We say "misguidedly" because X was already ranked above or equal to Y on
the greatest majority of ballots.

So vindication is a new kind of vote transfer that applies when the
strongest (remaining) defeat brings about the elimination.

In the case of three candidates, that kind of vote transfer will be
sufficient to turn X into a majority winner ... and in general, will likely
change the strongest victor into an undefeated candidate.

Example

49 C
26 A>B
25 B

If we measure defeat strength by Winning Votes + Losing Truncations, we
see that the defeat of A by C is strongest: WV+LT = 49+74 = 123.

Vindication updates the ballot profile as

49 C
26 C>B
25 B

So C now defeats B 75 to 25!

Try this out on your favorite ballot profiles, and see if you like it.

fws

A slightly simpler version for everyday citizens: When there is no candidate with more than half of the first rank votes ... 1.Find the candidate X that has the strongest head-to-head victory over any other candidate Y. This means (i) that X outranks Y on more ballots than Y outranks X, and (ii) that the number of ballots on which X outranks Y, plus the number of ballots on which Y out ranks no other candidate, is larger than the corresponding sum for any other pair of candidates. 2. Eliminate Y after replacing all of Y's first rank ballot appearances with X. 3. After these two steps if there is still no candidate with more than half of the first place votes, repeat steps (1) and (2) among the uneliminated candidates, until only one candidate remains. Note that in each elimination stage the votes of the most strongly defeated loser are transferred to the winner of that maximal strength defeat. We call this kind of vote transfer, "vindication" (of the winner). fws On Fri, Sep 8, 2023, 10:56 AM Forest Simmons <forest.simmons21@gmail.com> wrote: > Kristofer, > > This elimination method helps to explain the "unreasonable effectiveness" > of what we have been calling Max X>Y. > > While there remains no unbeaten candidate among the uneliminated... > "vindicate" the victor X and eliminate the loser Y in the strongest > pairwise defeat. > > Vindication of X is executed by raising X to the level of Y on any ballot > that (misguidedly) ranked Y above X, before eliminating Y. > > We say "misguidedly" because X was already ranked above or equal to Y on > the greatest majority of ballots. > > So vindication is a new kind of vote transfer that applies when the > strongest (remaining) defeat brings about the elimination. > > In the case of three candidates, that kind of vote transfer will be > sufficient to turn X into a majority winner ... and in general, will likely > change the strongest victor into an undefeated candidate. > > Example > > 49 C > 26 A>B > 25 B > > If we measure defeat strength by Winning Votes + Losing Truncations, we > see that the defeat of A by C is strongest: WV+LT = 49+74 = 123. > > Vindication updates the ballot profile as > > 49 C > 26 C>B > 25 B > > So C now defeats B 75 to 25! > > Try this out on your favorite ballot profiles, and see if you like it. > > fws >
JF
James Faran
Sat, Sep 9, 2023 3:47 AM

Example of "Vindication":

11 A>B
15 C>A
7 B>C

A>B by 26-7 is the strongest win, so B is eliminated and the 7 B>C votes become A>C votes and A wins over C 18-11.

If the 7 B>C voters changed their votes to C>B (Favorite Betrayal), C wins.
If the 7 B>C voters don't vote at all C wins (participation failure).
If the 15 C>A voters vote C>B instead (Burial), C wins.

Sounds fishy to me, though there's probably something I'm missing.  There usually is.
Jim Faran


From: Election-Methods election-methods-bounces@lists.electorama.com on behalf of Forest Simmons forest.simmons21@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2023 8:17 PM
To: Kristofer Munsterhjelm km_elmet@t-online.de; EM Election-methods@lists.electorama.com
Subject: Re: [EM] Vindication

A slightly simpler version for everyday citizens:

When there is no candidate with more than half of the first rank votes ...

1.Find the candidate X that has the strongest head-to-head victory over any other candidate Y. This means (i) that X outranks Y on more ballots than Y outranks X, and (ii) that the number of ballots on which X outranks Y, plus the number of ballots on which Y out ranks no other candidate, is larger than the corresponding sum for any other pair of candidates.

  1. Eliminate Y after replacing all of Y's first rank ballot appearances with X.

  2. After these two steps if there is still no candidate with more than half of the first place votes, repeat steps (1) and (2) among the uneliminated candidates, until only one candidate remains.

Note that in each elimination stage the votes of the most strongly defeated loser are transferred to the winner of that maximal strength defeat. We call this kind of vote transfer, "vindication" (of the winner).

fws

On Fri, Sep 8, 2023, 10:56 AM Forest Simmons <forest.simmons21@gmail.commailto:forest.simmons21@gmail.com> wrote:
Kristofer,

This elimination method helps to explain the "unreasonable effectiveness" of what we have been calling Max X>Y.

While there remains no unbeaten candidate among the uneliminated... "vindicate" the victor X and eliminate the loser Y in the strongest pairwise defeat.

Vindication of X is executed by raising X to the level of Y on any ballot that (misguidedly) ranked Y above X, before eliminating Y.

We say "misguidedly" because X was already ranked above or equal to Y on the greatest majority of ballots.

So vindication is a new kind of vote transfer that applies when the strongest (remaining) defeat brings about the elimination.

In the case of three candidates, that kind of vote transfer will be sufficient to turn X into a majority winner ... and in general, will likely change the strongest victor into an undefeated candidate.

Example

49 C
26 A>B
25 B

If we measure defeat strength by Winning Votes + Losing Truncations, we see that the defeat of A by C is strongest: WV+LT = 49+74 = 123.

Vindication updates the ballot profile as

49 C
26 C>B
25 B

So C now defeats B 75 to 25!

Try this out on your favorite ballot profiles, and see if you like it.

fws

Example of "Vindication": 11 A>B 15 C>A 7 B>C A>B by 26-7 is the strongest win, so B is eliminated and the 7 B>C votes become A>C votes and A wins over C 18-11. If the 7 B>C voters changed their votes to C>B (Favorite Betrayal), C wins. If the 7 B>C voters don't vote at all C wins (participation failure). If the 15 C>A voters vote C>B instead (Burial), C wins. Sounds fishy to me, though there's probably something I'm missing. There usually is. Jim Faran ________________________________ From: Election-Methods <election-methods-bounces@lists.electorama.com> on behalf of Forest Simmons <forest.simmons21@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2023 8:17 PM To: Kristofer Munsterhjelm <km_elmet@t-online.de>; EM <Election-methods@lists.electorama.com> Subject: Re: [EM] Vindication A slightly simpler version for everyday citizens: When there is no candidate with more than half of the first rank votes ... 1.Find the candidate X that has the strongest head-to-head victory over any other candidate Y. This means (i) that X outranks Y on more ballots than Y outranks X, and (ii) that the number of ballots on which X outranks Y, plus the number of ballots on which Y out ranks no other candidate, is larger than the corresponding sum for any other pair of candidates. 2. Eliminate Y after replacing all of Y's first rank ballot appearances with X. 3. After these two steps if there is still no candidate with more than half of the first place votes, repeat steps (1) and (2) among the uneliminated candidates, until only one candidate remains. Note that in each elimination stage the votes of the most strongly defeated loser are transferred to the winner of that maximal strength defeat. We call this kind of vote transfer, "vindication" (of the winner). fws On Fri, Sep 8, 2023, 10:56 AM Forest Simmons <forest.simmons21@gmail.com<mailto:forest.simmons21@gmail.com>> wrote: Kristofer, This elimination method helps to explain the "unreasonable effectiveness" of what we have been calling Max X>Y. While there remains no unbeaten candidate among the uneliminated... "vindicate" the victor X and eliminate the loser Y in the strongest pairwise defeat. Vindication of X is executed by raising X to the level of Y on any ballot that (misguidedly) ranked Y above X, before eliminating Y. We say "misguidedly" because X was already ranked above or equal to Y on the greatest majority of ballots. So vindication is a new kind of vote transfer that applies when the strongest (remaining) defeat brings about the elimination. In the case of three candidates, that kind of vote transfer will be sufficient to turn X into a majority winner ... and in general, will likely change the strongest victor into an undefeated candidate. Example 49 C 26 A>B 25 B If we measure defeat strength by Winning Votes + Losing Truncations, we see that the defeat of A by C is strongest: WV+LT = 49+74 = 123. Vindication updates the ballot profile as 49 C 26 C>B 25 B So C now defeats B 75 to 25! Try this out on your favorite ballot profiles, and see if you like it. fws
FS
Forest Simmons
Sun, Sep 10, 2023 5:43 PM

James,

Thanks for contributing and exploring your great example!

Here's the way I look at it:

When there are only three factions, if voters are sincere and well informed
about each others' preferences, the two factions that are farthest apart
will (most likely) be "anti-favorites" of each other. And the other faction
favorite will be ranked top by itself ... so it will not be the
anti-favorite of any of the three factions.

In your illuminating example every candidate is an anti-favorite of some
faction, so most likely not all factions are sincere.

In fact, the most likely cause of the cycle was the burial of a weak
centrist (B in this case) by the strongest of the other factions (C in this
example) ... that is, the one most confident about benefiting from the
cycle creation.

In deed all of the classical Condorcet methods (MinMax, Ranked Pairs,
Schulze's Beatpath CSSD, Jobst's River, etc) break the cycle at the weakest
link, eliminating B.

Nanson, Baldwin, and IRV also start by eliminating B, thereby bolstering
the confidence of the B nuriers.

And without the vindication transfer of votes to the candidate A that
defeated the eliminated candidate pairwise, all of these methods reward the
burying faction by electing C.

Vindication may seem vindictive, but it's the retaliation needed to punish
the buriers by making their sneaky ploy backfire!

Thanks Again.

fws

On Fri, Sep 8, 2023, 8:47 PM James Faran jjfaran@buffalo.edu wrote:

Example of "Vindication":

11 A>B
15 C>A
7 B>C

A>B by 26-7 is the strongest win, so B is eliminated and the 7 B>C votes
become A>C votes and A wins over C 18-11.

If the 7 B>C voters changed their votes to C>B (Favorite Betrayal), C wins.
If the 7 B>C voters don't vote at all C wins (participation failure).
If the 15 C>A voters vote C>B instead (Burial), C wins.

Sounds fishy to me, though there's probably something I'm missing.  There
usually is.
Jim Faran

From: Election-Methods election-methods-bounces@lists.electorama.com
on behalf of Forest Simmons forest.simmons21@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2023 8:17 PM
To: Kristofer Munsterhjelm km_elmet@t-online.de; EM <
Election-methods@lists.electorama.com>
Subject: Re: [EM] Vindication

A slightly simpler version for everyday citizens:

When there is no candidate with more than half of the first rank votes ...

1.Find the candidate X that has the strongest head-to-head victory over
any other candidate Y. This means (i) that X outranks Y on more ballots
than Y outranks X, and (ii) that the number of ballots on which X outranks
Y, plus the number of ballots on which Y out ranks no other candidate, is
larger than the corresponding sum for any other pair of candidates.

  1. Eliminate Y after replacing all of Y's first rank ballot appearances
    with X.

  2. After these two steps if there is still no candidate with more than
    half of the first place votes, repeat steps (1) and (2) among the
    uneliminated candidates, until only one candidate remains.

Note that in each elimination stage the votes of the most strongly
defeated loser are transferred to the winner of that maximal strength
defeat. We call this kind of vote transfer, "vindication" (of the winner).

fws

On Fri, Sep 8, 2023, 10:56 AM Forest Simmons forest.simmons21@gmail.com
wrote:

Kristofer,

This elimination method helps to explain the "unreasonable effectiveness"
of what we have been calling Max X>Y.

While there remains no unbeaten candidate among the uneliminated...
"vindicate" the victor X and eliminate the loser Y in the strongest
pairwise defeat.

Vindication of X is executed by raising X to the level of Y on any ballot
that (misguidedly) ranked Y above X, before eliminating Y.

We say "misguidedly" because X was already ranked above or equal to Y on
the greatest majority of ballots.

So vindication is a new kind of vote transfer that applies when the
strongest (remaining) defeat brings about the elimination.

In the case of three candidates, that kind of vote transfer will be
sufficient to turn X into a majority winner ... and in general, will likely
change the strongest victor into an undefeated candidate.

Example

49 C
26 A>B
25 B

If we measure defeat strength by Winning Votes + Losing Truncations, we
see that the defeat of A by C is strongest: WV+LT = 49+74 = 123.

Vindication updates the ballot profile as

49 C
26 C>B
25 B

So C now defeats B 75 to 25!

Try this out on your favorite ballot profiles, and see if you like it.

fws

James, Thanks for contributing and exploring your great example! Here's the way I look at it: When there are only three factions, if voters are sincere and well informed about each others' preferences, the two factions that are farthest apart will (most likely) be "anti-favorites" of each other. And the other faction favorite will be ranked top by itself ... so it will not be the anti-favorite of any of the three factions. In your illuminating example every candidate is an anti-favorite of some faction, so most likely not all factions are sincere. In fact, the most likely cause of the cycle was the burial of a weak centrist (B in this case) by the strongest of the other factions (C in this example) ... that is, the one most confident about benefiting from the cycle creation. In deed all of the classical Condorcet methods (MinMax, Ranked Pairs, Schulze's Beatpath CSSD, Jobst's River, etc) break the cycle at the weakest link, eliminating B. Nanson, Baldwin, and IRV also start by eliminating B, thereby bolstering the confidence of the B nuriers. And without the vindication transfer of votes to the candidate A that defeated the eliminated candidate pairwise, all of these methods reward the burying faction by electing C. Vindication may seem vindictive, but it's the retaliation needed to punish the buriers by making their sneaky ploy backfire! Thanks Again. fws On Fri, Sep 8, 2023, 8:47 PM James Faran <jjfaran@buffalo.edu> wrote: > Example of "Vindication": > > 11 A>B > 15 C>A > 7 B>C > > A>B by 26-7 is the strongest win, so B is eliminated and the 7 B>C votes > become A>C votes and A wins over C 18-11. > > If the 7 B>C voters changed their votes to C>B (Favorite Betrayal), C wins. > If the 7 B>C voters don't vote at all C wins (participation failure). > If the 15 C>A voters vote C>B instead (Burial), C wins. > > Sounds fishy to me, though there's probably something I'm missing. There > usually is. > Jim Faran > ------------------------------ > *From:* Election-Methods <election-methods-bounces@lists.electorama.com> > on behalf of Forest Simmons <forest.simmons21@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Friday, September 8, 2023 8:17 PM > *To:* Kristofer Munsterhjelm <km_elmet@t-online.de>; EM < > Election-methods@lists.electorama.com> > *Subject:* Re: [EM] Vindication > > A slightly simpler version for everyday citizens: > > When there is no candidate with more than half of the first rank votes ... > > 1.Find the candidate X that has the strongest head-to-head victory over > any other candidate Y. This means (i) that X outranks Y on more ballots > than Y outranks X, and (ii) that the number of ballots on which X outranks > Y, plus the number of ballots on which Y out ranks no other candidate, is > larger than the corresponding sum for any other pair of candidates. > > 2. Eliminate Y after replacing all of Y's first rank ballot appearances > with X. > > 3. After these two steps if there is still no candidate with more than > half of the first place votes, repeat steps (1) and (2) among the > uneliminated candidates, until only one candidate remains. > > Note that in each elimination stage the votes of the most strongly > defeated loser are transferred to the winner of that maximal strength > defeat. We call this kind of vote transfer, "vindication" (of the winner). > > fws > > > > On Fri, Sep 8, 2023, 10:56 AM Forest Simmons <forest.simmons21@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Kristofer, > > This elimination method helps to explain the "unreasonable effectiveness" > of what we have been calling Max X>Y. > > While there remains no unbeaten candidate among the uneliminated... > "vindicate" the victor X and eliminate the loser Y in the strongest > pairwise defeat. > > Vindication of X is executed by raising X to the level of Y on any ballot > that (misguidedly) ranked Y above X, before eliminating Y. > > We say "misguidedly" because X was already ranked above or equal to Y on > the greatest majority of ballots. > > So vindication is a new kind of vote transfer that applies when the > strongest (remaining) defeat brings about the elimination. > > In the case of three candidates, that kind of vote transfer will be > sufficient to turn X into a majority winner ... and in general, will likely > change the strongest victor into an undefeated candidate. > > Example > > 49 C > 26 A>B > 25 B > > If we measure defeat strength by Winning Votes + Losing Truncations, we > see that the defeat of A by C is strongest: WV+LT = 49+74 = 123. > > Vindication updates the ballot profile as > > 49 C > 26 C>B > 25 B > > So C now defeats B 75 to 25! > > Try this out on your favorite ballot profiles, and see if you like it. > > fws > >