Unhappy news regarding Burlington
Despite my best efforts, the Vermont governor allowed the Burlington charter change, returning RCV to Burlington after 13 years, to become law without his signature. Earlier, the House Government Operations committee stripped the explicit Hare method from the language of the charter change, leaving the specific RCV method up to city council, but I have no doubt it will be Hare.I warned them that some future legislature and a different governor will pass a statewide RCV into law, and because this gives Hare the leg up, someday we will be opaquely transporting 300,000 ballots from every corner of the state to Montpelier, just to know who the next governor or LG or AG or Sec of State is. With no redundant way to independently check on an election outcome.There are some smaller victories. The Deputy Sec of State, who is running for SoS, "gets it". And I have connected him to Eric Maskin, the Nobel laureate and coauthor of The Fairest Vote of All.But people are all of stubborn, s
tupid, craven, and dishonest.Licking my wounds after a brusing fight.robert
Sad news indeed. But let me just say that I really appreciate all the
effort you've put in to get Burlington to adopt a sane election method. It
is very unfortunate that people are so stubborn. But your efforts are
really appreciated.
Best wishes,
Daniel
On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 4:30 PM robert bristow-johnson <
rbj@audioimagination.com> wrote:
Despite my best efforts, the Vermont governor allowed the Burlington
charter change, returning RCV to Burlington after 13 years, to become law
without his signature.
Earlier, the House Government Operations committee stripped the explicit
Hare method from the language of the charter change, leaving the specific
RCV method up to city council, but I have no doubt it will be Hare.
I warned them that some future legislature and a different governor will
pass a statewide RCV into law, and because this gives Hare the leg up,
someday we will be opaquely transporting 300,000 ballots from every corner
of the state to Montpelier, just to know who the next governor or LG or AG
or Sec of State is. With no redundant way to independently check on an
election outcome.
There are some smaller victories. The Deputy Sec of State, who is running
for SoS, "gets it". And I have connected him to Eric Maskin, the Nobel
laureate and coauthor of The Fairest Vote of All.
But people are all of stubborn, stupid, craven, and dishonest.
Licking my wounds after a brusing fight.
robert
Election-Methods mailing list - see https://electorama.com/em for list
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Iowa State University
"The mills of truth grind slowly ..."
El sáb., 21 de may. de 2022 2:30 p. m., robert bristow-johnson <
rbj@audioimagination.com> escribió:
Despite my best efforts, the Vermont governor allowed the Burlington
charter change, returning RCV to Burlington after 13 years, to become law
without his signature.
Earlier, the House Government Operations committee stripped the explicit
Hare method from the language of the charter change, leaving the specific
RCV method up to city council, but I have no doubt it will be Hare.
I warned them that some future legislature and a different governor will
pass a statewide RCV into law, and because this gives Hare the leg up,
someday we will be opaquely transporting 300,000 ballots from every corner
of the state to Montpelier, just to know who the next governor or LG or AG
or Sec of State is. With no redundant way to independently check on an
election outcome.
There are some smaller victories. The Deputy Sec of State, who is running
for SoS, "gets it". And I have connected him to Eric Maskin, the Nobel
laureate and coauthor of The Fairest Vote of All.
But people are all of stubborn, stupid, craven, and dishonest.
Licking my wounds after a brusing fight.
robert
Election-Methods mailing list - see https://electorama.com/em for list
info
Thomas Hare method is at-large STV/PR, a method which elects the first preferences of well over 90% of the electorate, from a far better choice of candidates, worthy of the name of a free election system... Promoted by the great pioneers, Clarence Hoag and George Hallett. Its theoretical deficiencies have been refuted in practise by over a century of reliable elections (all things being equal).
"Hare method" applied to single vacancies is a misnomer.
The Andrae/Hare system is capable of further rationalisation (as by a rational exclusion count, promoted by myself with binomial STV, still a multi-member system, tho capable of adaptation to the less democratic single vacancy).
Regards,
Richard Lung.
On 22 May 2022, at 12:54 am, Forest Simmons forest.simmons21@gmail.com wrote:
"The mills of truth grind slowly ..."
El sáb., 21 de may. de 2022 2:30 p. m., robert bristow-johnson rbj@audioimagination.com escribió:
Despite my best efforts, the Vermont governor allowed the Burlington charter change, returning RCV to Burlington after 13 years, to become law without his signature.
Earlier, the House Government Operations committee stripped the explicit Hare method from the language of the charter change, leaving the specific RCV method up to city council, but I have no doubt it will be Hare.
I warned them that some future legislature and a different governor will pass a statewide RCV into law, and because this gives Hare the leg up, someday we will be opaquely transporting 300,000 ballots from every corner of the state to Montpelier, just to know who the next governor or LG or AG or Sec of State is. With no redundant way to independently check on an election outcome.
There are some smaller victories. The Deputy Sec of State, who is running for SoS, "gets it". And I have connected him to Eric Maskin, the Nobel laureate and coauthor of The Fairest Vote of All.
But people are all of stubborn, stupid, craven, and dishonest.
Licking my wounds after a brusing fight.
robert
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On 21.05.2022 23:30, robert bristow-johnson wrote:
Despite my best efforts, the Vermont governor allowed the Burlington
charter change, returning RCV to Burlington after 13 years, to become
law without his signature.
Earlier, the House Government Operations committee stripped the explicit
Hare method from the language of the charter change, leaving the
specific RCV method up to city council, but I have no doubt it will be Hare.
I warned them that some future legislature and a different governor will
pass a statewide RCV into law, and because this gives Hare the leg up,
someday we will be opaquely transporting 300,000 ballots from every
corner of the state to Montpelier, just to know who the next governor or
LG or AG or Sec of State is. With no redundant way to independently
check on an election outcome.
There are some smaller victories. The Deputy Sec of State, who is
running for SoS, "gets it". And I have connected him to Eric Maskin,
the Nobel laureate and coauthor of The Fairest Vote of All.
But people are all of stubborn, stupid, craven, and dishonest.
Licking my wounds after a brusing fight.
Damn. I'm sorry.
-km